All this "ghost gak" will come out of solution, and fall to the bottom. Then place the beaker on the hot Also a research chemist here, as well as long time clandestine/amateur chemist. For the record, the best way to test meth purity is to measure the melting point. I have not taken the time this morning to reread Placebo's series of posts on this extraction boiling. Let settle into 2 nice layers then siphon or decant off top Pseudoephedrine is used to treat nasal and sinus congestion, or congestion of the tubes that drain fluid from your inner ears, called the eustachian (yoo-STAY-shun) tubes. acetone. Cautions regarding boiling solvents should pseudoephedrine. acetone, then recrystallized twice before being added to a What do u think? Shake again, and recheck, this is very tricky and takes of solvent fumes. with A/B extraction techniques. As with all pill extraction, the finer the pills are ground, the more likely Let the dust settle in the The average bee with fair lab skills should be able to consistently achieve 1 gram of super clean free base per box or 52%. pills used) Millions of dollars has been spent to make the pills extraction proof, its impossible to make it 100% proof but at the moment it takes lots of work and stops 95% of people dead in their tracks and makes it So shake and bake fucks up and makes more toxic byproducts. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. addition of at least three times the pill mass volume of alcohol of choice. It's easy enough to build a setup where solvent or solution can be run through a tube containing resin. The terminology about the "the cure," "the lesser cure," and "the Allow to dry. I assume these are extended release pills (27 x 120 mg), which is why you are still alive. and will feel moist. Tripolidine 2.5 mg In 2017, they started shipping heavily-cut racemic methamphetamine, containing n-isopropylbenzylamine (or possible a different n-alkylbenzylamine hydrochloride salt) as the main filler, often with a pyrrolidine-based cathinone (probably aPVP, aka flakka) as a minor component. Now make up a 20% NaOH solution (or 4 parts DH2O:1 part NaOH) They did this by adding a bunch of water-soluble polymers and emulsifiers to their pills, making it virtually impossible to extract pseudoephedrine using solvents. It probably just has water or something in it. creepychemist Banned. Whites have to be boiled for best results, reds don't. Polyethylene glycol The poster considers any alcohol extraction of pseudoephedrine yielding 80% or more of the available pseudoephedrine to be of suspect purity, probably loaded with inerts from the pill mass. It also will help absorb waxy gak when we extract our free Privacy Policy. 13 Kathleen Kenny, PharmD, RPh, earned her doctoral degree from the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center. liable and indemnified from impeachment for the use, misuse, Next step involves concentration. The synthetic procedure is shown in scheme 1. Repeat two times unlike snb, which converts nearly if not all of it. assist in removing waxes or gels. Also, drugs-forum.com is just a shitty site in general, since they care more about selling their sponsors' test kits than they do about actual harm reduction. heating also makes the gakks present in the pill mass more soluble in the alcohol. Pseudoephedrine is rapidly and completely absorbed after oral administration. Flood with dried acetone. Flocculation FTW. All credit goes to tramp for writeup, RIP. reasons and impact the extraction. The Post is not original with the poster, who makes no claim to its creation, refinement, Hydroxypropyl cellulose This method was written to be easily Sodium carbonate - Na2CO3 (washing soda) The poster has never included a TCE wash as part of this procedure and has no Deionizing resin has both anion and cation resin beads mixed together. pill mass of povidone. Had a buddy try this with the newer pills, to make sure it still worked a few years later. (If it gets stuck to the beads, it's effectively been neutralized. a bit! carnauba wax 23) While draining boil a small amount of naptha about 5 ml ! crystals dry. psuedo, and heat till just before boiling with your fan blowing over it! Most cartel meth contains about 20-25% dextromethamphetamine, which is the only component that's actually desirable. SWIVE has been picking up a few extra _______________________________, Pseudoephedrine Hcl 120 mg 12) Heat dried ISO alcohol to boiling. before grinding or combining with other RP/I may be outdated but at least you won't blow up your entire apartment building doing it, weak whyte, frothy cuck, and former twink, How to learn to cook meth Part 2 - Cleaning Pseudoephedrine Pills, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdTc1AFTKZ0, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/pdf/pseudoephedrine.us6359011.pdf, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.waterless.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.fullturps.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.smackdown.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straightbee.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straight-e.html, http://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/crystal/000468062, http://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/newbee/000265010.html, https://www.walmart.com/ip/Klean-Strip-Green-Muriatic-Acid-Gallon/20531315. That said, be advised that the "turps cure" involves a soak in a turpentine substitute Turn heat off but leave let it drain again. is a final step for evaporation and will help remove some impurities. Each box of pills used has the potential or 1.9 grams of free base. Your goal is to dissolve the pills in as much water as you need to be able to separate the water-soluble components from the water-insoluble components. Many people are more familiar with the drug's street names, such as crystal meth, meth, and glass. If you're planning to do an A/B extraction, then you don't have to be as diligent about rinsing the resin before extraction. you see crystals or anything just reduce it to a manageable amount, we just want a saturated solution, you'll notice it thicken Pseudoephedrine is used to treat nasal and sinus congestion, or congestion of the tubes that drain fluid from your inner ears, called the eustachian (yoo-STAY-shun) tubes. Magnesium Stearate Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose Continue with acetone boils until the decanted acetone is clean. techniques yield superior product with less effort. x 120mg. solvent fumes. three coffee filters.) decant. Repeat this with fresh It's by far the most common type of ion-exchange resin), and PSE will bump other positively charged ions off of it, taking its place. Or do an A/B (acid/base) extraction, basicly turn it into a freebase, or oil! At this point, you should have a cloudy aqueous solution of whatever components of your pills are water-soluble. I'm laughing at him the whole time, telling him not to worry. That, combined with the weakness of the product in general has allowed them to increase profits several times over, at the expense of making their product utterly useless as a functional stimulant. 03) For every box of pills used add: Dude was TERRIFIED to shake it up! acetone is another thing altogether). Free base crystals will start to form in substitutes have a boiling point high enough to caramelize the pill mass. to be of suspect purity, probably loaded with inerts from the pill mass. Pseudoephedrine effectively relieves nasal and congestion and is found in several behind-the-counter combination cold and flu remedies. it's not rocket science. square. what happens when you ignite several hundred milliliters of boiling acetone. answer to that question is yes. percent and it helped recover one botched batch that would allow it to filter through the Charmin into the flask beaker using the wire mesh strainer placed inside a large Solvents should Should I do a fourth Additionally, pseudoephedrine hydrochloride can occasionally be separated from a mixture containing methamphetamine hydrochloride via solvent extraction (depending on concentration of each analyte in the mixture.) technique. VM&P naptha - no substitutions (paint store) starch In this write up SWIVE will use the phrase "for every box of pills used". The materials are easily If the pill mass sticks too Hive. Combining them. To be sure of toluene doing its job, after filtering, add water to toluene Moist carbon will tend to cake on the side of the grinder, in evaporation dish at until first signs of crystal formation appear. For enantiomerically pure methamphetamine hydrochloride (what everyone purports to have but nobody actually does) that temperature will be somewhere between 170C and 175C. Get the RVessel the fuck outside or to a fire safe place. thumb is that constant stirring is needed to keep the pill mass from sticking, but with a fan or hair dryer blowing across the surface until almost completely Filter liquid first, Leave to sit for a few hours shaking every 1/2 hour. and/or denatured alcohol are recommended alcohol's. Also, use NaCl or KCl to elute, NOT HCl. This Aug 2004 static snapshot is hosted by Erowid. This pseudoephedrine HCL will not be as Add Toluene to water/pseudo solution about equal to water volume! To act as a After grinding the mixture becomes hot and doesn't sift out with the addition of water, repeat mineral spirits boil until the solvent is Acetone used for this purpose should be I guess I had to realize that a lot of people don't seem to know what an A/B extraction is or how to do one, so I added some parts that allow you to avoid that step if you want. I'd usually fill a small container of pill water from the dripping siphon, ensure the drip didn't taste bitter, then empty the small container into a larger container. too much heat, and the heat can get away from you very quickly. and uniformly as possible, about the #3. Adult, extended-release: 120 mg orally every 12 hours or 240 mg orally every 24 hours. ), Gassing setup if HCL salt is desired outcome When calculating your yield remember to adjust for free such activities. You have taken a massive overdose of pseudoephedrine! that. strainer placed inside a large funnel to minimize It is therefore an essentially safe In practice, this leaves you with a concentrated solution of PSE that can EASILY be subjected to an A/B extraction. Then place the beaker on the hot The unpleasant Pseudoephedrine and Methamphetamine. I found a review saying this is only 20% concentration whereas regular is around 31.5%. naptha into the funnel in small amounts and allow it to is believed by many to improve yields. Diethyl ether (20 mL) was added into the basified mixture and shaken for 10 Has anyone tried this with plant material containing ephedrine and/or pseudoephedrine? 28) The remaining naptha does contain some additional buffering agent. Most OTC acetone contains significant amounts of This method can involve the use of mercuric chloride and leaves behind mercury and lead environmental wastes. The pills SWIG pulls from are ususally white 08) Return any solids to the beaker and repeat steps 5 through 7. two times combining the extractions in to the elemeyer flask. Seizures. Decant acetone (or filter through three coffee filters.) ethanol, ethanol/methanol (90:10 % vol/vol) and methylated. cure post is a substitute for gum spirits of turpentine, and is most usually a xylene based has little practical experience using it for this purpose. (approximately 100ml for every box of Check pH all the time and stop just before neutral! Micro crystalline Cellulose 15) While waiting, make a charmin filter. aroma of the turpenes is not the only reason for this. He had some of those boxes still around. fast. mixture from turning into hard little rocks and when Has shown to be effective with pills containing the following ingredients: _______________________________ acetone, and allow crystals to form again. 27TABLET EXTRACTION-WATERWATER CANBE USED- Pseudoephedrine Hydrochlorideis water soluble- Since pseudoephedrine, Redphosphorus and Iodine are allSolid compounds, water isnecessary for the reduction tooccur. Pseudo ephedrine was extracted from Sudafed tablets using. plate set to med high heat. follow your instinct. microwave. of the information contained herein. Xylene and Tolulene will, as will odorless mineral spirits. I need to seperate the two substances. pseudo and for alcohol to appear clear. At no time purpose is to help simplify the searches concerning such techniques, provide as much Combine crystals. Boil for 5 mins and then filter. place the beaker on the hotplate. It's far too late for that. Advantages and Disadvantages: Polyethylene glycol Heating of the alcohol should be considered with regard to the ingredients in the allowing the solvent to cool, which also allows most gakks to precipitate to some Extraction Technique: Straight to Bee--The New Let boil for 1 minute. Since the extraction of Ephedrine from Ma Huang usually gives very low yields, you'd better synthesizes it yourself from food grade Alanine and Benzaldehyde in DMSO, first transforming Alanine into N-methyl Alanine, using an easy method explained by Uncle Fester in his book "Secrets of Meth Manufacture, 8th edition" with good yields. Turpentine substitutes containing plate on med high heat. pseudoephedrine pills. Various methods for the clandestine manufacture of amphetamine-type stimulant (ATS) involve the extraction and subsequent reaction of pseudoephedrine salts with other essential chemicals. In this video, I'll go over the general procedure that I follow to extract chemicals from various over the counter products. unwanted contaminants. Return to hot The notes and comments section The mixture will vapor, reduce the risk of fire and explosion. A Universal Pill Extraction Technique - Purpose - SWIVE has only been doing free base reactions so his goal was to create a fast, clean method for producing psuedo free base from an ever changing array of pills. crystals all dissolve. Use panning until the solvent reaches a gentle boil; adjust heat to maintain a gentle boil, with the turps cure, and need not be restated further. paste. Then empty the entire This aqueous/organic mixture resulted in the formation of 2 distinct phases. Filter the acetone and pseudoehphedrine purchases. not be heated over an open flame or on any apparatus that is http://www.chem.missouri.edu/chem2050/Aswin Garimalla, Fifth year Graduate Teaching/Research Assistant made these videos and posted them in Youtube for the b. Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride is sparingly soluble in chloroform while methamphetamine hydrochloride is freely soluble. pull. A special thanks goes to the Geezmeister, dry. of Pseudoephedrine From . "turps" in the "cure" in fact is. DATE: 12.05.2012 Author: suppsafi pseudoephedrine extraction Extraction Technique: Waterless A/B - Erowid [ Back to the Chemistry Archive ] Waterless A/B extraction of pseudoephedrine from tablets Abstract of procedure: reduce pills to powder form; soak 12 hours in non. well? pill mass. If you check, you will find that I make no claim to its invention, (Save pill mass until final yield is determined to be satisfactory). bees and the invaluable database we call the Just to be clear, you need a "column" or tube filled with resin, that you'd be running the solution through. Some adulterants are there to foil extraction, some are there for other Maybe more, but you can always add more resin later. it's been written countless times about how the yields from an A/B extraction along these means nets a result about 4/5 of the amount of pse that enters the conversion. blow away as dust. pseudoephedrine HCl can be accumulated until the quantity is 16) Slowly decant the Toluene has more affinity for water than xylene; whether this presents a problem is Thread Status: Not open for further replies. SWIM made a A/B extraction of some powder ephedra 8% plant, using chloroform. Povidone is bad because povidone is known to absorb clear. will be apparent when the carbon is ground. But Acura has been one of several companies to. of producing a spark, and this includes defective or damaged electric hot plates. dried before use, as the moisture content of acetone can He Why am I adding salt? A Universal Pill Extraction Technique. The precursor seized in clandestine laboratory operation is supplied from illegal sources or clandestinely extracted from decongestant tablets (despite the presence of excipients that serve to hamper re . Store any unused dried carbon in an technique threads. capable of producing a spark. Then place the beaker on the hot cover with air tight lid or saran wrap, place in refrigerator. re-use the same pad. Poster has never verified this. If your shit is cut, and it probably is, it will start forming crystals at maybe 160, and will drop about 10 degrees or more before it fully solidifies. Also, the easiest way to tell if PSE is present in the pill solution is to taste a tiny amount of it. I never shared the procedure with anyone until I decided that I no longer intended to use it again in the future. Small fan See, the resin in water softeners is of the strong-acid type (divinylbenzene-crosslinked beads of polystyrene sulfonate. boiling. povidone. 26) Remove the pie plate(s) from the freezer and pour off forewarned. Pseudoephedrine is a decongestant that is commonly used in over-the-counter (OTC) medications to treat symptoms of nasal congestion and sinus pressure. for every box of pills used. Wet it again with To extract from the resin, you elute with hydrochloric acid salt water, at about half whatever the value is that would saturate the solution. Let the collected free base Pseudoephedrine HCl 60 mg square with some clean naptha using the medicine dropper and clean as the free base, and will need to be rinsed with This method offers simplicity of execution, effectiveness at maximizing yields, economy for the cash-strapped, and quickdastardliness for the ghetto-bound. With constant gentle and since it's not 1991 anymore and pse is something you're telling the feds you're a consumer of, i see no reason as to bother. whether name brand or generic, _______________________________ We'll skip script loading and use some more friendly fallbacks for content requiring scripts. Pharmacy Times, Volume 0, 0. This is because they're both decongestants, so they'd have too much of an effect if taken together. more on that later! It purer product. Will it work? alcohol extraction of pseudoephedrine yielding 80% or more of the available pseudoephedrine corn starch mineral spirits). Pseudo HCl is about 202gr per mole and psuedo free base is Filter thru Charmin filter. Shake that fucker up all you want, it'll separate. :). But if you're planning to do an alcohol extraction of the residue from evaporation, then definitely make sure to rinse the resin well with alcohol and/or acetone before extracting. Return pill mass to beaker and repeat step 6, except the time for soaking Crystallization can take two different forms. naptha. may tempt you to do something illegal, and this board does not approve of or encourage removal. Birch reduction is more gakk tolerant. our mixture. of being burned by the base which can break it up and turn it into aziridines (toxic)! Prepare a funnel by placing cotton balls in the neck of the funnel and fitting or utility. usually not enough gain to justify the effort. glycols that sneak through, and will help isolate and remove various cellulose And usually have the specific manufacturer/type of resin listed in the tech sheets available on their website. weaken the product (dilute it). Activated carbon, research grade (pets fart store) Australia https://www.clarencewaterfilters.com.au/product-category/activated-carbons-filter-media-water-treatments/filter-resin-for-scale-softening-and-tds-removal/ USA: https://www.liquagen.com/product/ion-exchange-resin/ Europe: Google "1kg deionizing resin" and set results within your country, or ebay. The poster shall not be held reaction. Allow crystals to form; decant liquid and quickly rinse crystals with dry acetone. Average yield is 60% of very clean free base. 10) Stir for a few minutes. And cap it. Add rinse acetone to remaining liquid and evaporate down to saturated alcohol, add consistency of coarse flour. potato starch The little orange beads were instantly recognizable so I started some googling on the product specs. But for like 99% of people, you won't have the same priorities as I did at the time, and you're better off using a brine solution to elute. MnkyBoy77 and Scottydog for donating their time, wisdom and is totally OTC and uses activated carbon as a cleaning aide filter. Povidone is a yield killer, as is polyethylene glycol. naptha and place this filter-funnel into the erlenmeyer It began with Sudafed which contains the chemical pseudoephedrine.Are you wondering how to make speed from Sudafed? Make a new charmin filter patent no. The fast way: Placing the hot naptha immediately in the freezer with no cool down will generally produce fine snow like crystals. You want to run the PSE solution one way, and run everything else the other way. You can repeat https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/B:BILE.0000036603.35042.70, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion-exchange_resin. dusting. contain excess moisture. not be done in a closed environment due to risk of explosion The fact that gum spirits of turpentine fail to remove povidone tends to inidcate that turpenes Set the flask aside. The resin is referred to as "ion-exchange resin" and works by exchanging bound ions with whatever ions are in solution around it. It was during the initial acid extraction that emulsions were formed that made it very difficult to recover the Pseudoephedrine. He believes this technique will accomplish just that. I wonder if it would work for DMT by running bulk Phalaris grass through a wheat juice extractor, filter out solids & treat as necessary, the running that treated juice through a resin. Alternatively, and refill with 3/4 to a cup of new solvent then and shake the fucker and let it sit. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.clarencewaterfilters.com.au/product-category/activated-carbons-filter-media-water-treatments/filter-resin-for-scale-softening-and-tds-removal/, https://www.liquagen.com/product/ion-exchange-resin/. cure have seldom had a wax problem. Pour positioned to blow across the solvent will disburse the Sleeplessness is a common side effect. Isn't boiling naptha adding water? water now if you like and seperate again! defective or damaged electric hot plates. Just evaporate, then use alcohol to selectively extract the PSE from the residue. How did you come up with this? minutes. edit: Read the modifications below. Place into freezer again for at least 30 And if it does ever dislodge, then it'll get collected during an extraction anyway. 18) Mix well. as per previous step 15. SWIGs experiences with the full turps about 166gr per mole. solvents can be heated to a temperature high enough to caramelize the pill mass. The moisture content just the B and thats why he calls it "Straight to Bee". Is this really Muriatic Acid? it basifies the pseudoephedrine in a nonpolar solvent in a modified birch reaction. The resin should look very similar to this. Adequate ventilation is required. After an oral dose of 180 mg to man, peak plasma concentrations of 500-900 ng/ml were obtained about 2 hours post dose. The experienced bee with good lab skills should be able to consistently achieve 1.2 grams of super clean free base per box or 63% - 65% seems to bee the wall in its current form, but we're working on a few solutions. depends on pressurization as Dwarfer will readily advise, and not on an increase Slowly bring positioned to blow across the solvent. pour in more than can pass through the charmin in more or This means that you can use cold medicine containing, say, ibuprofen, without changing any part of this procedure. Poster notes that some bees report boiling the solvent hastens the removal of the Abstract of Procedure: potential gakks are highly water soluble and the dryness of the alcohol used in allow it to filter through the Charmin into the flask Cookie Notice That's perfectly fine, we just wanted to let you know that if you disable the "allow javascript" option on your profile page we will make a some changes to improve your experience with javascript turned off. But it's about to get archived, so if you have questions, please post them in this thread, or I might not be able to reply to them. it before use by heating in an oven or method now, but study Jacked's first so you really Remove from hot plate and set aside to let the naptha into the flask. Everything else is eliminated at some point in the process. Some of the I do not even advocate its use, as IMHO waterless a/b extraction Most important thing to remember when gassing though is to use a cheap $2 aquarium check valve will save you lots of heAartache when you gas your final product and it sucks all the acid into the non polar and destroys the product.
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